Jockey Fleming |
Oblay in 1976 |
Fleming boxed and beat Kid Baker on the undercard of a 1919 bout . Baker was also known as Eddie Baker, and was later known for being the top Montreal drug and gambling guy until his death in 1945. Harry Davis took over that role thereafter.
Fleming was also known enough in 1921 to be a feature on a fundraiser for war veteran George Frame where he apparently sang his classic "How I became a baum," described by Le Devoir as "one of his masterpieces."
This hustler's quips, jokes, patter was old of the old Yiddish variety and made him a favourite of sports writers such as Dink Carroll who could barely get through a column without needling Fleming for his pride in never having a job or not being the best dressed man.
Sobel and Fleming in 1970 |
In 1969 Don Bell wrote a hilarious profile on Fleming's alleged feud with the similar Kid Oblay, which resulted as a chapter of Bell's award-winning book about Montreal.
Oblay, real named Laz Goldberg was busted for dealing drugs and intimidated witnesses in 1925 and sentenced to three years and then was busted for selling narcotics in 1932.
He told Nick Auf der Maur and les Nerenberg in a 1975 CBC TV show called Quelque Show, that he fell off an army truck and was declared disabled to fight in World War II.
He makes a brief appearance in a 1976 documentary about Montreal can be seen here.
Looks like Paolo Violi
ReplyDeleteOk, he wasn't an athlete, politician, gangster, actor, lawyer, community do-gooder, journalist, comedian..nah.. he didn't really fit into a category that you'd think of.
ReplyDeleteThey remind me of some gambler acquaintances I once knew.
ReplyDeleteKid Oblay, perhaps?
Jockey Fleming? Kid Oblay?
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Question was "Who's the famous Montrealer on the left?"
ReplyDeleteAny ideas? Fleming was on the right in the pic.
Good eye at the plate! I've made the switch.
ReplyDeleteHung out with the "Kid" during my Metropolitan News Days. Favourite quote "You guys are just babies! You know from nothing"!
ReplyDeleteJockey Fleming's real name was Moses Ruttenberg.
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DeleteI first met Kid when I worked at the Loews's cinema on St. Catherine in 1975 . He was probably 77 then. Always telling jokes for a few bucks or talking about how he knocked out the guy. I often let him into the cinema so he could get some rest on the mezzanine with a cup of popcorn and coffee. He was harmless and just trying to make it through another day. The Mayor of Peel street was always with a Montréal Star newspaper and ready to sell it to you for a nickel. He would repeat the same stories.
ReplyDeleteI first met Kid Oblay in June 1977 when I worked at the United Cigar Store at the corner of Peel and Ste.Catherine. He was fun to talk to. He once bought a Oh Henry candy bar, not knowing there were nuts in it. As he was eating, he started to spit the nuts and they fell all over the floor. I had to take out the broom and sweep the floor..LOL
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