Looks like NDG Ave. looking east between Melrose and Wilson, closer to the latter. A bus stop is located in the middle of the block.
The other picture might be Pointe St-Charles with the old Victoria Tubular Bridge in the background. But wasn't its conversion to the present open truss version completed in time for the Diamond Jubilee in 1897? Seems to be one truss in evidence.
Oops...it's looking east, not west. And no, I did not look at the previously posted comments before I recognized the site.
It's weird, too, since I have only walked along that section of NDG Avenue a handful of times in my entire life yet instinctively felt where it was. It must be because those houses on the north side of NDG Avenue are on a rise, which is not that common around there, as in say Outremont.
Digging further, the lady is standing outside her house at 5788. Lovell's of 1938 lists an H.F Mustard living there.
Looks like the delivery men are about to unload a mirrored dresser-drawer from their horse-drawn cart. Today the hedges and small fence are gone, but a large tree has since grown in front where the route 4 bus stop was and the hydro power poles have long since been removed entirely from the south side of NDG Avenue. The manhole in the centre of the street is no longer there, either. Indeed, it looks suspiciously like the street and sidewalk are not wet from a recent rain, but from a city street-flushing truck. I'll bet kids back then used to chase those trucks just as we did!
For those who care to know, bus route 4 ran from Madison Avenue to near St. Denis and Cherrier, close to where the 144 stops near the Sherbrooke Street East Metro.
The Autobus that would stop at the Tramways sign to right would have been, in 1945, on a Rush Hour extension to regular Route 4 Westmount NDG.
In the 1945 Tramways Map, Fold Out, Yellow, Regular 4 operated West from St. Denis/Cherrier/St. Hubert/Sherbrooke and North on St. D., then West on Pine, South on University, then West on Sherbrooke to Greene.
The Rush Hour 4 went further West on Sherbrooke to Madison, then turned back East on NDG, passing the stop shown in the photo, and thru to Decarie, South to Sherbrooke and back East to Greene and East to St. Hubert on the reverse route.
Where NDG and Sherbrooke intersected, there was ALSO a turning loop for streetcars, the cars turning back East onto NDG just East of the point of the 'Vee' where Sherbrooke and NDG joined ( now a Parkette ), then turn South on Madison and immediately turn East on Sherbrooke to go back downtown.
The streetcar loop lasted until 1956 when all streetcars came off on Sherbrooke and so many other routes.
After the War there was an Autobus Somerled 3 which circulated West on Somerled from Walkley, the actual bus U-Turning on Somerled at Cumberland by fire station 46, and then traveling West on Somerled to Patricia, South to Sherbrooke to Terminus Elmhurst.
Going back, the 3 Autobus turned North on Westmore to Somerled and then back East to Station 46.
We used this bus to connect with streetcars at Elmhust or Walkley after moving to NDG from Saranac.
When the 102 Somerled was put on using longer Can Car Brills, it used West Broadway to Fielding both ways, being 'broader'.
Older streets in NDG were narrower than those built in the boom after the War, one of the reasons NDG and so many other areas went to One Way streets in the Fifties as automobiles and traffic proliferated.
In the Fifties and the Sixties there was a Driver's Licence bureau in the basement of the building on the Northeast corner of Sherbrooke and Kensington in a dungeon-like office entered by the back door and steps at the rear West corner.
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Looks like NDG Ave. looking east between Melrose and Wilson, closer to the latter. A bus stop is located in the middle of the block.
ReplyDeleteThe other picture might be Pointe St-Charles with the old Victoria Tubular Bridge in the background. But wasn't its conversion to the present open truss version completed in time for the Diamond Jubilee in 1897? Seems to be one truss in evidence.
Yes, that archway is still there - it has a little cement car on top. NDG Avenue between Melrose and Wilson.
ReplyDeleteEasy one.
ReplyDeleteNDG Aveneu looking west near Wilson.
Oops...it's looking east, not west. And no, I did not look at the previously posted comments before I recognized the
ReplyDeletesite.
It's weird, too, since I have only walked along that section of NDG Avenue a handful of times in my entire life yet instinctively felt where it was. It must be because those houses on the north side of NDG Avenue are on a rise, which is
not that common around there, as in say Outremont.
Digging further, the lady is standing outside her house at
5788. Lovell's of 1938 lists an H.F Mustard living there.
Looks like the delivery men are about to unload a mirrored dresser-drawer from their horse-drawn cart. Today the hedges and small fence are gone, but a large tree has since grown in front where the route 4 bus stop was and the hydro power poles have long since been removed entirely from the south side of NDG Avenue. The manhole in the centre of the street is no longer there, either. Indeed, it looks suspiciously like the street and sidewalk are not wet from a recent rain, but from a city
street-flushing truck. I'll bet kids back then used to chase those trucks just as we did!
For those who care to know, bus route 4 ran from Madison Avenue to near St. Denis and Cherrier, close to where the 144 stops near the Sherbrooke Street East Metro.
The Autobus that would stop at the Tramways sign to right would have been, in 1945, on a Rush Hour extension to regular Route 4 Westmount NDG.
ReplyDeleteIn the 1945 Tramways Map, Fold Out, Yellow, Regular 4 operated West from St. Denis/Cherrier/St. Hubert/Sherbrooke and North on St. D., then West on Pine, South on University, then West on Sherbrooke to Greene.
The Rush Hour 4 went further West on Sherbrooke to Madison, then turned back East on NDG, passing the stop shown in the photo, and thru to Decarie, South to Sherbrooke and back East to Greene and East to St. Hubert on the reverse route.
Where NDG and Sherbrooke intersected, there was ALSO a turning loop for streetcars, the cars turning back East onto NDG just East of the point of the 'Vee' where Sherbrooke and NDG joined ( now a Parkette ), then turn South on Madison and immediately turn East on Sherbrooke to go back downtown.
The streetcar loop lasted until 1956 when all streetcars came off on Sherbrooke and so many other routes.
After the War there was an Autobus Somerled 3 which circulated West on Somerled from Walkley, the actual bus U-Turning on Somerled at Cumberland by fire station 46, and then traveling West on Somerled to Patricia, South to Sherbrooke to Terminus Elmhurst.
Going back, the 3 Autobus turned North on Westmore to Somerled and then back East to Station 46.
We used this bus to connect with streetcars at Elmhust or Walkley after moving to NDG from Saranac.
When the 102 Somerled was put on using longer Can Car Brills, it used West Broadway to Fielding both ways, being 'broader'.
Older streets in NDG were narrower than those built in the boom after the War, one of the reasons NDG and so many other areas went to One Way streets in the Fifties as automobiles and traffic proliferated.
In the Fifties and the Sixties there was a Driver's Licence bureau in the basement of the building on the Northeast corner of Sherbrooke and Kensington in a dungeon-like office entered by the back door and steps at the rear West corner.
Got my Licence there so many years ago.
Thank You.