Monday, April 26, 2010

More Tyndale Martin and his Greatheart Monastery

  We got a ton of response when discussing Tyndale Martin's Buddhist/Catholic cult.
  As of this Jan. 2015 update Tyndale is still kicking around Montreal after fathering a reported 20 kids.
   One of his sons, John David Ross leaped to his death in 2008 from the 18th floor of the Delta Hotel. Others have done well. They carry their mothers' last names.
   Tyndale Martin reportedly spent 3 1/2 years in prison for bad stuff related to his daughters.
   Martin's rise began in the late 1960s when Tyndale was a poet and beatnik.
   Martin called himself a hippie in 1967, in an article where he addresses the plight of young people. He said that he "failed to set up a mature relationship with his parents."
   He set up his Greatheart Buddhist Monastery in 1969 and received funding from Catholics to set up a sort of school at 3664 Mountain unit 101. (Along with Robert Annechino, George West and Louis Cormier, among others)
   Here is a 1973 ad calling for 42 students to undertake a "full-time study of intelligence (Sutra) research)." According to another article, the Monastery in 1975 was located at the Marie E.C. Boyer house at 3474 Mountain (pictured above).
   According to reports Tyndale Martin's many female followers were required to have sex with him and each other. (see excellent video report here).
   That same article in 1981 claimed that a baby died after being left in a freezing basement but others have vigorously argued that this story is untrue. A baby did indeed die but it was a stillbirth affair with no irresponsible behavior involved..
   His cult combined aspects of five different faiths and received funding from many of them.
   Tyndale started with the Montreal Zen Meditation Centre and became more dominant after declaring himself the Panchen Lama
   He told a journalist: "I believe I have received the responsibility to carry on his work here in Montreal and in the west, I don't enjoy seeing myself as the Panchem Lama, for me it's a very serious responsibility and I have to be very careful in my personal life so that I don't work against the will of the holy spirit of God."
   Local Tibetan Buddhists insisted that Tyndale was not the Panchem Lama.
   By the mid-seventies he had a home in Dorion where he lived with 11 female followers while a dozen male adherents lived elsewhere.
   His movement fizzled after the media exposure. The male members weren't happy with disclosure of Martin's sexual dalliances. By 1977 many of them moved on to Ottawa.
   Eugene Larocque was himself soon after involved in a cover up where he admitted paying off a man with $32,000 who was accusing him of sexual molestation.
   We have another two items on Tyndale Martin, including this one with a photo.

Famous father

   Tyndale Martin's father Harold George Martin was also an evangelist who led the Christian Homes for Children, which was slammed in a 1961 article called "How to Make a Million in the Charity Game."
   After Tyndale grew up and moved out from their West island home, Harold George Martin purchased Singer Castle on Dark Island in the Thousand Islands, which he bought for $1 off of the LaSalle Christian Brothers in 1965.
George and Eloise - Tyndale's parents
   He changed the name to Jorstadt, as his name had originally been Martin-Jorstadt and lived there with wife Eloise Dorsey and conducted religious services there.
   Harold George Martin called himself a doctor but was in fact not really one. Harold and his wife Eloise attempted to sell the property for $5 million 1985 but found no buyers.
   Martin died in November 1999 and his son Wycliffe took over his religious sermons. In July 2002 the family sold the property for $1.8 million and it is now used for public tours, dubbed the Castle of Mystery.

   Harold George Martin previously had a home for orphaned boys and property in the Laurentians which he once rented to David Berg and Children of God. Berg died in 1994. His daughters have accused him of molesting them.
Tyndale Martin's dad lived here
   Now back to Tyndale Martin.
   We found this article from 1967 in which Martin, identified as a "hippie" speaks about the plight of young people and confesses that he "failed to set up a mature relationship with his parents." He set up his Greatheart Buddhist Monastery in 1969 and received funding from Catholics to set up a sort of school at 3664 Mountain unit 101. Here is a 1973 ad calling for 42 students to undertake a "full-time study of intelligence (Sutra) research)." According to another article, the Monastery in 1975 was located at the Marie E.C. Boyer house at 3474 Mountain (pictured above).

29 comments:

  1. Nevermind the pictures of Martin. Concentrate on finding pictures of his female followers having sex with each other.

    Sorry... spring fever.

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  2. Anonymous3:38 am

    One of my brother's friends got caught up in the Tyndale Martin cult in the '70s. One day, he and another cult member knocked on our door claiming that their car broke and could I lend them $20.00. And of course I did. And of course I never saw the $20.00 ever again.

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  3. Seth Croteau8:25 pm

    I used to live 15 mins. from Singer Castle. You can see it from the parkway. My father kept wanting us to kayak to it, but it's in a shipping channel, and I've never kayaked.

    He also wanted to bike from the Thousand Islands to Mtl., but, to me, getting there isn't Any of the fun.

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  4. Re: "He also wanted to bike from the Thousand Islands to Mtl., but, to me, getting there isn't Any of the fun."

    So not true, M. Croteau. I've done the bicycle camping thing between here and Kingston maybe a half dozen times and it's always a blast. Beautiful scenery, excellent safe roads, nice people, quaint Loyalist towns for provisioning and boatloads of history all along the way. Of course, it's a little easier coming back than going out, what with the winds and the slope, but there's always the VIA train for the wimpier types. You should try it sometime.

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  5. SethTropol Roulant2:56 am

    Rich, most people would choose VIA over biking from Thousand Islands to Mtl., so you're calling a lot of people wimps. And I don't take VIA, I take the bus, which makes VIA look like the Concorde. Based on your intolerance of anyone who doesn't travel like you, I guess people who Walk that whole trip think You're a wimp.

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  6. I think you're missing my point, Seth. For some people (including me) getting to where you're going is most of the fun. Especially when you're bicycling.

    Also, I'm not intolerant of other people's preferred mode of transport. I'm just a flippant fuck.

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  7. Jean Naimard12:13 am

    Wasn’t that the house of Jeanne Sauvé???

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  8. Anonymous7:03 am

    Just so you know, the unfortunate suicide of the son of Tyndale Martin happened 2 years ago, not ten. How do I know this? That poor guy was my brother.

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  9. Anonymous10:08 pm

    Most of the information on your blog is accurate. Here are a couple of corrections for you. The 1973 address of Greatheart Buddhist Monastery was 3664 Mountain, but not unit 101. If you look at the link to the 73 ad in the Montreal Gazette you will see that 109 (not 101 as listed) in an early Montreal postal code, not a unit number. This address was a large brick 3 story building with a slate roof that had a secondary residence or "little house" in the back. The monastery lost that residence in 73 and may have moved to the other location sometime later. I don't know about children that Tyndale Martin had after 1973 but at that point in time he had two sons by his then ex-wife Gisela. As for a picture of Tyndale Martin, you need go no further than your own "discussing" link. Of the men in kilts, the one with the crown is Tyndale prior to his days as a Buddhist lama. -Zed

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  10. Thanks for the insight, however the person in that photo is not Tyndale Martin, as you state. It's a poet named James Stewart.

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  11. Anonymous5:33 am

    I do not know about the reliability of the report of Tyndale Martin spending time in prison, but I was aware that his father owned a castle on one of the thousand islands. Researching the sites on the history of Singer castle confirms that his father did purchase it, but for $35,000 not $1.-Zed

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  12. Anonymous12:24 am

    Hey, anonymous, I'm Stephen, if you are his (Junior?) brother right back to me on this address stephbed@hotmail.com
    as a kid I spent 3 years living in the monastery, from 7-10 years old.
    I'm 45 now, we need to talk.
    Bye the way fuck you Rich, my mother was in there. She's the one who lost the baby.

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  13. Anonymous12:41 am

    Anonymous, we need to talk. I lived in the sect as a child fron 7-10 years old. I can't believe junior is dead.
    write: stephbed@hotmail.com
    Fuck you Rich, my mother was in there.

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  14. Anonymous4:56 am

    Just for the benefit of any and all readers, there is more than one person who chooses to post anonymously to this site. I close all of my posts with "-Zed". I am not the one who posted that his brother, one of Tyndale's sons, committed suicide 2 years ago. I wish you luck, Stephen, in getting in contact with that "anonymous". By my reckoning based on the numbers you gave, you must have left the monastery very early in '73. I recall only 3 children when I was there (probably after you were gone): Tyndale's two sons by his ex-wife Gisela and the son (about 4 years old) of one of the nuns. None of those boys was called Junior (or Tyndale Jr.) or Stephen for that matter, as I recall. All the best to you -Zed

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  15. Anonymous10:10 pm

    Interesting reading...a fair amount of it is somewhat accurate...
    Nick here, eldest son of Gisela and Tyndale.
    Sounds like this blog is turning into something of a meeting place for the apparently many people that were in some way affected by Tyndale (thank you Kristian)
    So , what now?...share more info?, a "family" reunion?
    I'm open to suggestions.

    ~Nick

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    1. Hi Nick, trying to find your mom... I lost everything on my computer in Dubai so her address as well. Pls contact me susanburch50@gmail.com (Bishop _

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  16. Nick,I sent something a few minutes age, but I don't know if it went thru. I'll check later to see. Anyway I know you, your Mum and Dad. More later.sanny

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  17. Anonymous12:48 am

    There was never any "Junior". There was, however, a beloved brother and son who did end his life in 2008. Shame on you Kristian for addressing this tragedy in such a flippant manner.

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  19. Anonymous9:07 pm

    After posting a comment with my email address I received some comments from people who had past in the sect...
    None of them from one of Tyndale's sons, wich I would like to communicate with.
    To prove my identity I was in there but I wasn't 4 years old as "Zed" seems to recall but I had just turned 6. My Mother's name was Muriel Bédard, she entered the sect at the same time as another guy "Adam Gajer" who was kind of a father fr me (they had met in San Francisco)
    Since my souvenirs are so way back and being so yound at the time I might have got mixed up in the names...
    Nicolas, this is for you: do you remember the time we let a tire roll down Mountain street and we lost control of it? it went across Sherbrook and then out of sight... We were scared shitless!
    I also have souvenirs of travelling in a beaumont and singng "Frere Jacques" in the back seat. I also recall Yellow Submarine...
    I would like to know what happened to your younger brother and damn I can't remember his name!!!
    I'm writing a book in french about all of this, my mother asked me to do it on her death bed. I'm trying to do some research.
    Thanks Christian, the guy on the other entry is definitely him: the monster!

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  20. Anonymous5:34 am

    I appreciate your post, anonymous (who was 6 years old). I loved the image of the tire rolling down past Sherbrook. It made me laugh. The four year old I was referring to obviously was not you. His name was Paul. His mother lived in the little house with Tyndale, Penny, and Wendy and Tyndale's two sons when they were there and not with Gisela. One of the prefectors, Pierre, slapped Paul and Tyndale broke both of Pierre's arms, or so I was told. He had full casts on both arms. I don't know if you were there when that happened. I too, can not recall Nicholas younger brother's name and wish I could. I hope he is not the one who committed suicide as has been referred to previously. I recall Adam as being tall, lanky, and good natured with large boned eastern european features and blond hair (even though his head was shaved, one could tell). I believe he was of Polish ancestory if memory serves me well. When you write that "the guy on the other entry is definitely him" (meaning Tyndale) are you referring to the photo of the man in the kilt and crown or something else? Thanks. Peace be with you. --Zed

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    1. His name was Patrick. he died on a parasailing accident :(

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  21. Anonymous12:28 am

    Who are you people? You "live" with the man for x amount of months (???) when you were 4 or 6 years old and now you want to write a book? Wtf. There are real people whose family lives are actually involved in this. Real people have to deal with this. Why don't you find something you have a real connection to and leave other peoples business alone.

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  22. Anonymous10:51 pm

    There's no shortage of pain in this world. I respect that those who have been more closely involved in all this over longer periods of time, are likely to be more deeply wounded and affected. But others have been profoundly effected as well. Cults function because of isolation and secrecy. Healing only comes with honesty. Granted, a blog may not be the best place for the deepest honesty. Though nothing in the past can be changed, I do believe healing can come. My wish for all concerned is healing, forgiveness, and a deep abiding peace. May God be with you all -Zed

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  23. Anonymous8:38 pm

    Preceptor M.
    Anyone who was with TM from '72-'81 will remember me. Anynomous who was 6
    when i first met Muriel, Adam and you we'd go to Jeanne Mance park sometimes and read from the Lama Govinda's book Foundations of Tibetan Mysticism. Your mom was always smiling and wearing a long skirt (for years after as well as an "Ani", remember?)...Adam would pick-up garbage and eat it eg. the uneaten side of an ice cream cone. He later became an accountant or something, complete switch. You were a cute kid i think initial started with S. ...not 100% sure.

    TM would give his "Sunday Talks" and always wearing the same gray sweater to give himself an air of zen master practising poverty. Years later he did time for agressing one or more daughters...some zen master.No funny stuff happen with the men but the women were clearly abused the whole thing would deserve a book but i'm too busy with work and practice. I can't figure out who most of you are...why don't you at least use your first names? like Louis, Georges, or Bob,... TM's first "lamas". You can reach me at supprfin@hotmail.com ...i can understand some of you may need some resolution on some of this stuff which really was a weird and wooly adventure.

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  24. Anonymous10:08 pm

    Some people wonder why anyone would join a cult. People don't join cults.. people have serious questions about life and mistakenly join groups who seem to have answers. In '70-'71 there was very little info on Zen or Buddhism. TM had studied with the Korean Zen Master Samu Sunim now in Toronto and later he met with Very Venerable Kalu Rinpoche in Vancouver. TM somehow got it into his head that Kalu Rinpoche had approved him as a Lama...nowadays we would call that someone with an extreme narcissistic personality disorder. TM had had a very fucked youth with his bible-thumping and violent father, he had serious issues but was a seeker...but he very wrong, as it is possible when one as a lot of power. You have to remember this was the early 70's he was a very good-looking man dozens of beautiful young nubile hippie women were willing to have sex with this Guru-type..most of us have no idea what it's like to have this kind of power of attraction and might not have done better than him...not defending him ...just saying. As the years went by he went further and further astray and became a bigger and bigger Rudra (demon). Don't know much what happened to him after 1981 apart from the prison thing...seems Wendy-Jane is no longer with him but not sure. Don't know who's with him now.

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  25. Anonymous12:36 am

    Wandered back into this tonight so a little news for those asking.

    Patrick died in a glider crash in May of 2004.
    He was survived by a young wife, myself and our mother, Gisela.

    Stephen, I do remember the tire vividly, do you remember the red pedal car and the treehouse we built in the woods at the top of the street?

    I have your email and I'll write when I get this a little better settled in my own head...
    This part of my life has been locked away for a very long time and while it may have shaped who I am now, I'm not entirely sure I'm ready to face everything just yet.
    There were a lot of terrible things that went on in that place, some I remember and some I chose not to. I’ve become most of what I want to be, a good husband, father and friend but there’s elements of my personality that are not so positive and this brings all manner of things uncomfortably close to the surface.
    ~ Nick

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  26. May 2014: Wendy-Jane, John's mother, remains dedicated to Tibetan Buddhism and is in retreat at Lama Norlha's Center.

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  27. this is for NICK!!!! NICk I have lost your mum's contact informaton ...my computer crashed and I cannot now remember her married name. Doubt you remember me but I remember you and Patrick well :)....how can I contact you to leave an email? You knew me as Sue Bishop from Ottawa :)

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