In photo No. 8, MTC 2053 is heading East and is just entering the North/left leg of the Wye at Pigeon and will travel North to the station at Gouin Blvd.
The MTC 2053 has a trolley pole and Motorman's position at each end and is bidirectional for use where the end of the line does NOT have a Wye nor Loop to turn back.
Being a double-end car, MTC 2053 would have FOUR Doors, two on each side.
The Semaphore Signal notifies Motormen to get on the Telephone in the little green shack and contact higher authority.
After 'Wying', the car would exit the Wye on the curved South/right leg and then would travel West to Limites at opposite end of this route, go around the Loop at that location and return. The Route 40 almost all single-track right to the end of streetcar service here in May 1959.
( In Wying here, the Car would travel North to Gouin, then Back Up South on a straight track not visible in distance, then stop and curve Left/West to this location to rejoin single track to Limites.
The Switch Stand is hidden by streetcar, but would be just to left of green 'phone booth. )
Note in Coolopolis Photo just how neat and spiffy the property, cars and station looked in the Montreal Tramways Company era.
A real Class outfit.
A tired Cartierville car at Garland just before the end in June 1959.
Picture #6 of the red tram coming down the Glen is one of the all-masonite wartime cars built during the acute steel shortage of 1939-45. After the war it was used as a rules instruction car and painted in red.
So desperate was the need for streetcars in the war that even the golden chariot observation cars were drafted after tacking on roofs, but not much other protection. They weren't appreciated in bad weather.
Eventually the gifted craftsmen of the Mtl Tramways built these wood and masonite bodies (two trams) and borrowed the trucks and other steel gear from the observation cars.
One car survived to be donated to the Seashore Trolley Museum in Kennebunkport, but unfortunately their acute shortage of covered storage led to its eventual destruction. Painted masonite can withstand only so much of the elements. But an ingenious solution to wartime demands.
Open Observation Car at left is on North South track connecting legs of Wye visible to right. Regular cars would back South from Gouin on left track then head back West to Limites on far Wye track.
Anyone know the exact opening or inaugurationdate of Garland Terminus?
I made note of an article I'd read years ago in the Montreal Star for March 26, 1949 about the construction of Garland, however the Google newspaper archives for the 1949 Montreal Gazette are missing for some unknown reason, and the Montreal Star's are yet--if ever-to be placed online.
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ReplyDelete1--Route 17 Cartierville Terminus
2--Tram southbound on trestle over CPR tracks west of Decarie
3--PCC streetcar with Garland Terminus powerhouse to the right (6310 Decarie)
4--M&SC trolley near McGill Street, Old Montreal
5--Lachine 91 Streetcar at Stoney Point Terminus
6--Streetcar southbound on the Glen
7--Streetcar at Mount Royal Blvd. and Hutchison, camera facing west.
8--Streetcar route 40 at l'Archevesque stop, Montreal North
The locations have been nailed down already on Photos 1 thru 8.
ReplyDeleteNow for some details to flesh out the photos.
In Image No. 5, the streetcar is facing South on 44 th. Ave in the tail of the Wye at Lachine, with Broadway crossing East/West in front of car.
The post 1951 crest is visible on car side.
The car will then 'leave', turning left/East onto Broadway and thence back to downtown Montreal.
This part of the Lachine line was discontinued in Nov. 1954, the service then being cut back to Notre Dame and 6th. by Dominion Bridge.
We made a trip out here c. 1951.
Location on Google looking North on 44th.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=45.43651,-73.704395&spn=0.000008,0.003819&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=45.43651,-73.704395&panoid=BUhbtMRjFLcKxHD6YyvspA&cbp=13,359.84,,0,3.24
UNTIL April 1951, Route 92 Lachine Extension traveled beyond this point out to 56th. Ave.
Rte. 92 car turning North on 45th.
This is a double-end car, Trolley pole and Motorman's position on each end.
http://www.memorablemontreal.com/document/image/original/HM_ARC_003513-001.jpg
Google View.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=45.436579,-73.705854&spn=0.000008,0.003819&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=45.436668,-73.706081&panoid=gwWZnJtpJZp9bBtnQk-DXQ&cbp=13,107.74,,0,10.92
In photo No. 8, MTC 2053 is heading East and is just entering the North/left leg of the Wye at Pigeon and will travel North to the station at Gouin Blvd.
The MTC 2053 has a trolley pole and Motorman's position at each end and is bidirectional for use where the end of the line does NOT have a Wye nor Loop to turn back.
Being a double-end car, MTC 2053 would have FOUR Doors, two on each side.
The Semaphore Signal notifies Motormen to get on the Telephone in the little green shack and contact higher authority.
After 'Wying', the car would exit the Wye on the curved South/right leg and then would travel West to Limites at opposite end of this route, go around the Loop at that location and return. The Route 40 almost all single-track right to the end of streetcar service here in May 1959.
( In Wying here, the Car would travel North to Gouin, then Back Up South on a straight track not visible in distance, then stop and curve Left/West to this location to rejoin single track to Limites.
The Switch Stand is hidden by streetcar, but would be just to left of green 'phone booth. )
Note in Coolopolis Photo just how neat and spiffy the property, cars and station looked in the Montreal Tramways Company era.
A real Class outfit.
A tired Cartierville car at Garland just before the end in June 1959.
http://davesrailpix.com/mtc/jpg/mtc04.jpg
Thank You again for the wonderful photos, Sir!!
Picture #6 of the red tram coming down the Glen is one of the all-masonite wartime cars built during the acute steel shortage of 1939-45. After the war it was used as a rules instruction car and painted in red.
ReplyDeleteSo desperate was the need for streetcars in the war that even the golden chariot observation cars were drafted after tacking on roofs, but not much other protection. They weren't appreciated in bad weather.
Eventually the gifted craftsmen of the Mtl Tramways built these wood and masonite bodies (two trams) and borrowed the trucks and other steel gear from the observation cars.
One car survived to be donated to the Seashore Trolley Museum in Kennebunkport, but unfortunately their acute shortage of covered storage led to its eventual destruction. Painted masonite can withstand only so much of the elements. But an ingenious solution to wartime demands.
Posting without looking at the other answers (I swear!)
ReplyDelete1- Cartierville loop (¿DOH?)
2- Viaduct over the CPR tracks between Garland & Blue Bonnets.
3- Garland terminus.
4- Along rue des Sœurs-Grises, at the M&SC terminus.
5- On the 44th avenue wye, in Dixie (Lachine).
6- Southbound, on Glenn road, about here.
7- Mont-Royal/Park avenue loop.
8- End of the Montréal-Nord line wye on Pigeon near Henri-Bourassa.
9- No idea.
Did the Pigeon wye include today's Henri-Bourassa, Leger, Pigeon, and their respective intersections?
ReplyDeleteYes, the streetcar would be approximately here, looking East.
ReplyDeletehttp://maps.google.com/?ll=45.604078,-73.63639&spn=0.000015,0.007639&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=45.603945,-73.636467&panoid=SoFOgjwgz7pqzxbGwQBWbA&cbp=13,22.32,,0,-1.82
Historic car 997 has just left above location and is heading North to Gouin on Pigeon.
http://www.stm.info/en-bref/tramways/images/diapos/S61111D15.jpg
Both legs of Wye join at switch behind car.
Leger runs West into distance.
Looking North on Pigeon. The track was where the grass is on the right on Pigeon to Gouin. The Station just South of Gouin on the East side.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=45.604483,-73.636326&spn=0.000015,0.007639&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=45.604526,-73.636497&panoid=ntKngRJOIZ7ngn_fG-zw8Q&cbp=13,338.63,,0,-4.45
Approximate location of station on Pigeon, Looking East.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=45.606262,-73.638343&spn=0.000015,0.007639&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=45.606332,-73.63842&panoid=iUUY4nQemP5MOTJO9-RqIw&cbp=13,49.72,,0,-2.83
Pigeon at Leger, Looking South.
http://www.stm.info/en-bref/tramways/images/diapos/S61111D21.jpg
Open Observation Car at left is on North South track connecting legs of Wye visible to right. Regular cars would back South from Gouin on left track then head back West to Limites on far Wye track.
Approximate location on Google, looking South.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=45.604753,-73.634695&spn=0.000015,0.007639&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=45.604906,-73.636804&panoid=sViGLW-nj63sjiSPBKea-w&cbp=13,138.48,,0,-7
Historic car 997 at LIMITES heading East to Pigeon on Single Track.
http://www.stm.info/en-bref/tramways/images/diapos/S61111D14.jpg
Angled brick building visible here on Google.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=45.581591,-73.651276&spn=0.000004,0.00191&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=45.581473,-73.651388&panoid=atfrf1_K3GnWL2_bpG_geQ&cbp=13,217.45,,0,-0.91
1948 Tramways track diagram.
http://bp3.blogger.com/_H_qVyVvy8AI/Rt_3PniUVMI/AAAAAAAAC0Y/3Hx9mXhLxK0/s1600-h/Image0046.jpg
Thank You.
Anyone know the exact opening or inaugurationdate of Garland Terminus?
ReplyDeleteI made note of an article I'd read years ago in the Montreal Star for March 26, 1949 about the construction of Garland, however the Google newspaper archives for the 1949 Montreal Gazette are missing for some unknown reason, and the Montreal Star's are yet--if ever-to be placed online.